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My story - working for Kaiser Permanente, Getting injured by Paul D. StutrudI was working as a union construction electrician, remodeling the two facilities in Richmond when they posted for a stationary engineer's job in Martinez. One electrician friend of mine had already shipped over and was working atthe Richmond hospitals. He loved it.
I went out to
Martinez and talked to the engineering department
superintendent. I was more than qualified and I got the
job.
At first on a probationary, 20 hours or more basis.
Then I made permanent 40 hour
employee.
During my The guy who got the job had political connections, which I think made the difference. Oh well. Anyway, I made permanent employee and three months later, I was injured on the job. Hurt my back. At first I thought I had simply pulled a muscle. A week later I was in severe pain. I was seen by the employee Nurse Practitioner, given a prescription for pain medication and told I could go home. No X-rays were taken and I was not seen by a regular physician -- even though there was an emergency ward downstairs. The next day I was in such severe pain I could not get out of bed! I called in and arrangements were made for me to go to a physical therapist. Not at Kaiser but an outside group.
First
thing, I
was asked if I had any X-rays. I told them
no. So the guy sort of guessed at what he
thought was wrong. "I think you
have
partially dislocated
your left hip!" He tried different things after
putting
me on heat packs
I had also been accepted to be a test subject in a
54 day
Multiple
Space Shuttle
simulation for NASA down at the Aames Research Lab in Mountain
View. I was one of ten selected out of a
large group of applicants.
We
were labeled as aerobic/athletic. We
were subjected to a series of tests
three
times that included
riding in a centrifuge (you've probably seen them on tv or
in a movie), being subjected to very low
vacuum pressure, running on a treadmill
that got
We also had a little valve installed on our arms
in which we
received anti-space
sickness drugs. All-in-all there were 27 different
sub-routines of tests being conducted on us by all
these different NASA doctors and
technicians. Anyway, the point of all that is that I have always been in good physical shape, until my accident. One doctor told me that if I hadn't been in such good physical shape I would have really been hurt! Three months went by and still no X-rays. I was seen by five different doctors who would tell me to take another few weeks off, when I would complain about the pain.
Finally, the last
doctor, a woman, asked me about the X-rays and
I told her I still hadn't been X-rayed. She ordered
them immediately (on
a Friday) and the next Monday called me and asked if I would
come in for a
Cat-scan.
I did
At
about this time
I was also notified by Kaiser that I was to
go to San Francisco
to see a QME (Qualified Medical Examiner). I called
Kaiser in Santa Rosa (where I had been seen by
the five doctors and finally had been
given the
I called him
and
made an appointment and told him my X-rays would
be forwarded
to him. Guess what? They never made
it.
He took about 19 X-rays and told me that I had a herniated Disc
at L-5 and some torn ligaments on my
left hip. Wait a minute! I thought Kaiser had a program for injured workers to be able to come back and work at light duty until they were healed! I decided I needed an attorney. Before I had gotten injured, I had worked as a volunteer at the Marin County Law Library as part of a program through the Paralegal Certification Program at Sonoma State University. I was in the program to get certified as a paralegal because I had worked as an expert witness in construction defect litigation and I thought the paralegal training would help me be a better witness.
Anyway, I met a
guy who had been a San Francisco police officer
and had gotten
hurt once to often. They had put him into a voc-rehab
program. He was studying to be a
lawyer! He told me about his Workers Comp
attorney
and I might add that by the time all this had happened I was now about six months into being injured. I had not received my Workers Comp payments a couple of times and I was still in pain to the point at times it was distracting.
My attorney told
me I needed to get a doctor outside of the Kaiser
system. I did and he X-rayed me and did an MRI and told me I
had an inward
herniated disc at L-5 and torn ligaments on my left
hip. Wow!
So
what do we do about He told me he would be reluctant to operate on a disc that is herniated inward. He said the chance of pain relief was about 50-50. That if I exercised and took walks and took care of myself the pain would eventually go away. So, I didn't have the surgery. Then I was told to meet another QME - He didn't take any X-rays or a Cat-scan or an MRI. He relied on my doctors stuff. He told me I qualified for rehabilitation. This was in September of 1991. I didn't hear any thing from Kaiser until December of 1991. And then the voc-rehab counselor asked me if we could wait until after the start of the new year. What could I say? I was still in pain and didn't feel like doing anything.
In
January 1992 I
met with the Voc-rehab counselor. He gave
me some tests and then sent me to an
occupational analyst firm. They were
supposed
to help me
decide what kind of work I could do with a herniated disc.
My limitations After finishing being "Analyzed" by the occupational analysts I went back to the Voc-rehab counselor and showed him my test results. I was to take computer animation and graphics and to learn how to be a demonstrative evidence technician. You know, one of those people who create evidentiary animation's for jury trials and legal confrontations. If you remember the O.J. Simpson trial and some of the stuff they used in it. That was going to be my new job! Well, my counselor knew of a computer school in San Francisco and he made me an appointment to go see their counselor. The young woman seemed to know exactly what I needed. She told me her father was an attorney and she knew what I needed. We made out a program of classes and she told me I needed to start in about two weeks Other wise I would be delayed until the class sequence came around again in six months. At this time in my life I had already taken Cobol, Algol, Fortrain Four and HP Basic. When she told me I would start out in a basic class in Macintosh, I protested. I told her I had taken a computer animation class at Sonoma State University on a MacIntosh. She said they have to start all their students off this way to make sure they know all the stuff. I went back to my counselor and told him I would have to start by the end of January (1992). He was a little perturbed. He told me we needed to meet with the insurance rep from Kaiser to fill out an RU-102. I told him if I didn't start at the end of the month I would be delayed. I told him I could probably cover it on my credit card but I would have to be reimbursed. He reluctantly told me to start.
February
1992 - I
get a telegram from my Superintendent at Kaiser
in Martinez.
I am fired! I am fired retroactively to
February
1991. My medical and dental insurance are
canceled. I receive a check for a
balance
of pay I had not Paul D. Stutrud copprfst at onemain.com I was working as a union construction electrician, remodeling the two facilities in Richmond when they posted for a stationary engineer's job in Martinez. One electrician friend of mine had already shipped over and was working at the Richmond hospitals. He loved it.
I went out to
Martinez and talked to the engineering department
superintendent. I was more than qualified and I got the
job.
At first on a probationary, 20 hours or more basis.
Then I made permanent 40 hour
employee.
During my The guy who got the job had political connections, which I think made the difference. Oh well. Anyway, I made permanent employee and three months later, I was injured on the job. Hurt my back. At first I thought I had simply pulled a muscle. A week later I was in severe pain. I was seen by the employee Nurse Practitioner, given a prescription for pain medication and told I could go home. No X-rays were taken and I was not seen by a regular physician -- even though there was an emergency ward downstairs. The next day I was in such severe pain I could not get out of bed! I called in and arrangements were made for me to go to a physical therapist. Not at Kaiser but an outside group.
First
thing, I
was asked if I had any X-rays. I told them
no. So the guy sort of guessed at what he
thought was wrong. "I think you
have
partially dislocated
your left hip!" He tried different things after
putting
me on heat packs
I had also been accepted to be a test subject in a
54 day
Multiple
Space Shuttle
simulation for NASA down at the Aames Research Lab in Mountain
View. I was one of ten selected out of a
large group of applicants.
We
were labeled as aerobic/athletic. We
were subjected to a series of tests
three
times that included
riding in a centrifuge (you've probably seen them on tv or
in a movie), being subjected to very low
vacuum pressure, running on a treadmill
that got
We also had a little valve installed on our arms
in which we
received anti-space
sickness drugs. All-in-all there were 27 different
sub-routines of tests being conducted on us by all
these different NASA doctors and
technicians. Anyway, the point of all that is that I have always been in good physical shape, until my accident. One doctor told me that if I hadn't been in such good physical shape I would have really been hurt! Three months went by and still no X-rays. I was seen by five different doctors who would tell me to take another few weeks off, when I would complain about the pain.
Finally, the last
doctor, a woman, asked me about the X-rays and
I told her I still hadn't been X-rayed. She ordered
them immediately (on
a Friday) and the next Monday called me and asked if I would
come in for a
Cat-scan.
I did
At
about this time
I was also notified by Kaiser that I was to
go to San Francisco
to see a QME (Qualified Medical Examiner). I called
Kaiser in Santa Rosa (where I had been seen by
the five doctors and finally had been
given the
I called him
and
made an appointment and told him my X-rays would
be forwarded
to him. Guess what? They never made
it.
He took about 19 X-rays and told me that I had a herniated Disc
at L-5 and some torn ligaments on my
left hip. Wait a minute! I thought Kaiser had a program for injured workers to be able to come back and work at light duty until they were healed! I decided I needed an attorney. Before I had gotten injured, I had worked as a volunteer at the Marin County Law Library as part of a program through the Paralegal Certification Program at Sonoma State University. I was in the program to get certified as a paralegal because I had worked as an expert witness in construction defect litigation and I thought the paralegal training would help me be a better witness.
Anyway, I met a
guy who had been a San Francisco police officer
and had gotten
hurt once to often. They had put him into a voc-rehab
program. He was studying to be a
lawyer! He told me about his Workers Comp
attorney
and I might add that by the time all this had happened I was now about six months into being injured. I had not received my Workers Comp payments a couple of times and I was still in pain to the point at times it was distracting.
My attorney told
me I needed to get a doctor outside of the Kaiser
system. I did and he X-rayed me and did an MRI and told me I
had an inward
herniated disc at L-5 and torn ligaments on my left
hip. Wow!
So
what do we do about He told me he would be reluctant to operate on a disc that is herniated inward. He said the chance of pain relief was about 50-50. That if I exercised and took walks and took care of myself the pain would eventually go away. So, I didn't have the surgery. Then I was told to meet another QME - He didn't take any X-rays or a Cat-scan or an MRI. He relied on my doctors stuff. He told me I qualified for rehabilitation. This was in September of 1991. I didn't hear any thing from Kaiser until December of 1991. And then the voc-rehab counselor asked me if we could wait until after the start of the new year. What could I say? I was still in pain and didn't feel like doing anything.
In
January 1992 I
met with the Voc-rehab counselor. He gave
me some tests and then sent me to an
occupational analyst firm. They were
supposed
to help me
decide what kind of work I could do with a herniated disc.
My limitations After finishing being "Analyzed" by the occupational analysts I went back to the Voc-rehab counselor and showed him my test results. I was to take computer animation and graphics and to learn how to be a demonstrative evidence technician. You know, one of those people who create evidentiary animation's for jury trials and legal confrontations. If you remember the O.J. Simpson trial and some of the stuff they used in it. That was going to be my new job! Well, my counselor knew of a computer school in San Francisco and he made me an appointment to go see their counselor. The young woman seemed to know exactly what I needed. She told me her father was an attorney and she knew what I needed. We made out a program of classes and she told me I needed to start in about two weeks Other wise I would be delayed until the class sequence came around again in six months. At this time in my life I had already taken Cobol, Algol, Fortrain Four and HP Basic. When she told me I would start out in a basic class in Macintosh, I protested. I told her I had taken a computer animation class at Sonoma State University on a MacIntosh. She said they have to start all their students off this way to make sure they know all the stuff. I went back to my counselor and told him I would have to start by the end of January (1992). He was a little perturbed. He told me we needed to meet with the insurance rep from Kaiser to fill out an RU-102. I told him if I didn't start at the end of the month I would be delayed. I told him I could probably cover it on my credit card but I would have to be reimbursed. He reluctantly told me to start.
February
1992 - I
get a telegram from my Superintendent at Kaiser
in Martinez.
I am fired! I am fired retroactively to
February
1991. My medical and dental insurance are
canceled. I receive a check for a
balance
of pay I had not Paul D. Stutrud copprfst at onemain.com |